James SilverWolf† 1 Report post Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) I ran across this recently and figured it would be of interest to the rest of the folks here: http://www.activistpost.com/2014/08/house-quietly-passes-three.html Apparently the house was taking advantage of the news storm over ebola and events transpiring in the middle east to pass these three "cybersecurity" bills. Granted we all already know that these sorts of bills can have, besides their regular text, rafts of tacked-on-legislation which may not even be related that can piggyback the bill to get passed, and are generally bad in the first place, with regard to rights of the citizenry. Be Vigilant, Folks. Edit: Link Fixed and these are the bills spoken of: H.R. 3696 – the National Cybersecurity and Critical Infrastructure Protection Act (NCCIPA), the primary bill of the three, which passed by voice vote; (See here: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:hr3696: )H.R. 2952 – the Critical Infrastructure Research and Development Act (CIRDA), a bill promoting cybersecurity research and development, which passed by voice vote (See here: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:hr2952: ) andH.R. 3107 – the Homeland Security Cybersecurity Boots-on-the-Ground Act, a bill seeking to bolster the cybersecurity workforce, which passed by a 395-8 vote. (See here: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:hr3107: ) Be sure to include the colons on the ends of those URLs, those are supposed to be there. And when I say piggy-backing things in I mean such as in cases with the NDAA (which basically always passes) Yet repeal of prohibition of homosexual acts from the Uniform Code of Military Justice was worked into the 2014 one after the same legislation in the 2013 one got a little "too progressive", as that one also tried to repeal the bestiality prohibitions in the UCMJ, so that amendment at least, didn't pass... consensual sodomy is now permissible though (since that provision passed in the 2014 NDAA, assuming I recall right), unfortunately. Always read through every revision and amendment of the National Defense Authorization Act in both the house and senate, There is some freaky stuff in there, some of it passes some of it doesn't. Edited August 6, 2014 by James SilverWolf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JollyRancher† 0 Report post Posted August 5, 2014 Im not much on politics but it sounds like their trying to tax us more and get more money in their pockets? If that is what im getting at sorry if I misinterpret it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
papermodel† 0 Report post Posted August 5, 2014 all your included link says to me is "Sorry, the page you were looking for in this blog does not exist." it sounds like their trying to tax us more and get more money in their pockets? Likely not, and unless you have some proof that there are piggy-backing bills I don't think there are here, likely the bills are just good or fancy sounding but designed to make bureaucratic loop-holes in which censorship can be increased in some manor... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Flechmen 0 Report post Posted August 5, 2014 Its stuff related to how the internet can be controlled really. Think SOPA but worse. Basically, companies like Comcast and TWC are wanting to severely limit user's access to services like Netflix and Amazon Prime, because those are competitors to cable/on-demand TV. Better explanation: FCC blog post about sending comments to them: http://www.fcc.gov/blog/fcc-makes-open-internet-comments-more-accessible-public I sent them a page already. I'm concerend that as someone who only has access to a small ISP that I could be shut off from sites that have to go through Comcast/TWC/etc because I don't have that service. That hasn't been brought up yet, but... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
papermodel† 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2014 (edited) Well, as I said 'or a fancy way of making a loophole for censorship'And just to throw it out here; making laws that will inhibit a competition's ability is stupid from a capitalist vantage point, especially in this circumstance as its techno-cultural innovation, progress in tech. tied heavily to the modernising push of pop-culture... In other words something that will be pushed no matter how hard or overpriced it is to get (IPhone for example). The damage that legislation will do will be to high a price to pay for a likely unsuccessful and immoral attack on competition...Besides Amizon is a huge company, if something like this was going on, then there would be a much bigger push in the opposite direction... [was unable to watch the video at the time I posted this, if you feel it does not apply then simply ignore it] Edited August 6, 2014 by Kravix Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Penter† 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2014 Man, I've heard about this stuff. It's Quite scary actually... Sadly, It seems all we can do is hope for the best, currently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperKuddlor† 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2014 I hate all of those SOPAs PIPAs ACTAs, but be sure that anyone who tries to control the internet will have their plans destroyed by Anonymous. What these stupid capitalists want is that you don't get rich while doing what you love to do. But communists prohibit Church. Anarchists would make so much porn and sin and no order. So is there a political system on this world where furries, internet, nerds and Christians are respected, please? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
papermodel† 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2014 hey now... Capitalist here... and that's not it at all, Capitalism is in fact the economic thesis that states; "businesses should be owned by the people" the idea is that even though you may have corrupt people, its better to have a few businesses of the masses corrupt instead of a corrupt government over all of them… businesses in which you do what you want, be self employed, etc only exist in a capitalist or capitalism-leaning system... 1 Penter reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Penter† 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2014 hey now... Capitalist here... and that's not it at all, Capitalism is in fact the economic thesis that states; "businesses should be owned by the people" the idea is that even though you may have corrupt people, its better to have a few businesses of the masses corrupt instead of a corrupt government over all of them… businesses in which you do what you want, be self employed, etc only exist in a capitalist or capitalism-leaning system... Heh, I guess this is going off topic, but I can't agree with you more here. 1 papermodel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flechmen 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2014 The problem is internet lines are run in such a way that capitalism can't happen. There's no real competition between internet providers, and as a result the US pays a lot for really terrible service in comparison to most of the world. For a lot of folks, it's Comcast or nothing. For a lot of other folks, it's TWC or nothing. And so on. So most people can't choose to go with an ISP that will provide a better service, they're stuck with what they have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingFriday† 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2014 Yep when I lived in Utah it was comast or quest. Both were horrible... Up here in Canada I have 4 to chose from. Service varies... But telus seems to be OK. As for this censorship bull. I remember the sopa fight... One way or anther they will get their way. Even if it takes years to fully implement by little schemes like this. Sad but true. Lots of talk... Not many really doing anything about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperKuddlor† 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2014 hey now... Capitalist here... and that's not it at all, Capitalism is in fact the economic thesis that states; "businesses should be owned by the people" the idea is that even though you may have corrupt people, its better to have a few businesses of the masses corrupt instead of a corrupt government over all of them… businesses in which you do what you want, be self employed, etc only exist in a capitalist or capitalism-leaning system... Sorry if I hurt you, but I didn't mean to. I'd love to be self employed like making video games and such and etc. But what I'm saying bad about capitalism is that the rich people can marginalize indie developers because they think like "Our company of OVER 9000 employees and its games are no match in popularity than this indie guy's super awesome mobile game everyone's playing. Let's pay lawmakers to illegalize that guy's games for some reason that is stupid, but who cares, he got money haha" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites